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Thanks CQ. Anyone can look like they don't abuse animals in public, but once out of the public eye it's a whole other story
 

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True . Munchousans (sp) moms look like saints. I'll find out more by asking the daily staff without causing a stir.

The vets office called me this morning and scheduled for tomorrow. I called back and said I had suggested xray 2 days ago, and vet #2 (we'll call her) didn't bring the machine. Instead she comes and makes the same guesses that I did. I told her I want an xray. First she says she'll come back same day, then she says today, then tomorrow.

Anyway I called the receptionist back and told her I feel like I'm being pushed off. I'd like them done today. So they call back and say late,-fine.
I love Dr. Davenport as many do, and have had him for 13 years. I think he's a top notch vet. However, he has this other vet working with him and I don't care for her. I guess I have to ask specifically for him in the future. The other one, #2, diagnosed someone else's horse with an abcess which turned out to be founder-a whole lot more serious and requiring quick attention. She came out twice for that one. Davenport finally came out and diagnosed Founder. I don't mind another vet come out and give shots or sniffles. But I believe this is serious and not "just a bruise". 3 weeks later and my horse can barely walk. It took 3 weeks to try the most common treatments like soaking for one thing then drying out for another. God forbid she has a bone chip and needs a special shoe-like now. I know my blacksmith would come right out when I call.
 

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I've had the same situation in the past. The one vet couldn't diagnose her way out of wet paper bag. The other woman was wonderful. Like you the one that was awful was allowed to do general stuff but when it came to serious stuff only the one was wanted. By all of us on the farm.
 

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The vet came out and met me at 8pm at the barn. We did a full set of xrays and then some, some flexion tests and 2 nerve blocks. Her xrays were beautiful except for one area that looked somewhat demineralized. These are her right front foot back in 2013.
On picture 1, you can see these 2 points, R and L. Those points are actually the ends of the bone in the hoof.
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On this 2nd one you can also see the points on the R and L side.
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On this 3rd pic you can see that the bone that's the farthest lower left in the picture are those points. We call them wings on the coffin bone.
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We call them wings on the coffin bone. They are just the sides of the bone. The xrays from today show one wing on the R hoof looks raggedy. I don't know if it's demineralization, wear and tear, or has a chip in it. I'll post it when I get it. She's going to have the other vet look at it and see what he thinks.

If it makes her lame, I imagine it's age and her confirmation. She will probably be stall bound for some time and stabilize .
 

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Well, maybe you'll get a game plan out of this that will help. I know that leg and foot injuries take a long time to heal even when you know what the problem is. When you're not sure where it's coming from can take even longer.

I'm assuming no heat is being found anywhere else?
 

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We have a game plan now. I think whatever it is will need stall rest and hanwalking.

No heat, no swelling. Results on the block are no reaction on the outer heel bulb,
And better on the blocking the non reactive heel. So we'll be doing more blocks higher up.

The new vet and I have developed a good relationship. That's one good thing that's come out of it..
 

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Horse is still lame, moreso when turning to the left. I'm waiting for the vet to call and also send me those xrays.
 

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Oh no. I really hope you get to the bottom of this
 

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Farrier came out yesterday. I took my tablet with the xrays with me. He did find a bone spur between one of the joints. He also found something that appeared to be a nail hole. As he investigated, it seemed to be pretty deep, and has a tiny drainage hole. Very small. No nail inside. So I think it's a choice between the two of them. Hmmm.

Anyway, the first xray is from 2013. The second on is from last month, and there is a calcium deposit on the 2nd that can cause a lot of pain.

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I was hoping she was healing by now.Is she still lame and in pain?Can it be fixed?
 

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Farrier found a small nail hole that may or may not be part of the cause. The head vet came out and gave her an injection and said ride her normal, and she's sound now. Tomorrow is work day!
 

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A woman was riding my horse regularly by agreement. She's a good rider. My horse inadvertently got trimmed and ridden the next day. 2 days later came up lame on a Thursday. She tells me that Sunday because she got busy! Some people are so stupid. She's one of those people where 95% of all conversations end up talking about herself.

Anyway, I started using an Epsom salt paste and bandage the hoof. (hoof abcess is like bumblefoot on a horse with a pocket of puss that has to work it's way out. Years ago the vet would come and dig around in their hoof, but that's not done anymore. Now it's basically painkillers, soaking, and leaving the horse in the pasture because walking increases circulation. So it's a daily trip to the barn. I think it does me good getting out there daily!

It's been almost 2 weeks. These things take time.
Sounds like you board your horse? Just wondering, is there a reason your stable owner or barn manager didn't tell you? Not that your leasee shouldn't have told you... But this time of yr, under regular circumstances, I can only get out to our stable on the weekends, so I rely on the staff for SO much. And, pft, they surely do get paid well for it!!

Though I do agree with you- time at the barn is good for the soul!
 

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Sara, those were my words exactly. The rider noticed it on a Thursday and called me on Monday because she was too busy. She's one of those "all about me" people . The barn manager said it didn't look bad a few days before and since she was trimmed that past week, they thought she was just sensitive. From the question catching the manager off guard and my facial expression -it will not happen again.

You are right. I pay alot of money to board my horse where I do because of the access to a trail. They should be watching my horse and notifying me if somethings not right.
 

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Sara, those were my words exactly. The rider noticed it on a Thursday and called me on Monday because she was too busy. She's one of those "all about me" people . The barn manager said it didn't look bad a few days before and since she was trimmed that past week, they thought she was just sensitive. From the question catching the manager off guard and my facial expression -it will not happen again.

You are right. I pay alot of money to board my horse where I do because of the access to a trail. They should be watching my horse and notifying me if somethings not right.
That's sorta sucky, I'm sorry! They should notify you no matter what and then let it be your call on whether or not it's a big deal.

We once left a boarding facility after the SECOND time we had to hear through the grapevine that our horses had been let loose into 100 acres because a couple novices couldn't manage the gate.

Normally not something I'd hold against the facility... But I do feel that's a situation I need to be a part of...not something where they haul the horses back in and try to act like it never happened!
 

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I know. It's not for them to decide what it is or if they should call.
 
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